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Kennedy's Disease Chat Transcript   12-17-11

Topic:  Holiday Traditions and Keeping Warm

Host:  Bruce Gaughran

Bruce
Good Morning and Happy Holidays
Stan
Good morning, Bruce, from cold and snowing Michigan, "where it gets so cold it can kill a senior citizen in under 2 minutes."
Bruce
We are colder today also with a strong north wind (thanks).
Bruce
Morning David
David
Good Morning Bruce and Stan
Stan
Happy to send the wind back. We had it for the last couple of days.
Bruce
David are you getting the same nasty weather as Stan?
Stan
Good morning David
Bruce
Morning Stan
Bruce
Morning Lou
David
No the weather here is mild for an Ohio December
loshimo11
Good morning everyone. This is loshimo11 joining in from a cold but sunny San Francisco.
Stan
Good morning loshimo11
Bruce
Are you enjoying some warmer weather in San Francisco?
Bruce
I am a little slow today, sorry!
Bruce
We were in the low 70s for a couple of days this week, but it changed when you Yankees decided to share.
Stan
I'm slow every day now, Bruce.
loshimo11
It's been in the 60's during the daytime but gets pretty chilly at night (as low as in the 20's) in some areas.
Bruce
I don't mind the cold as much if there is sun.  It is when it is cloudy or raining with strong winds that it chillds me to the bone.
Bruce
chills
Bruce
Eight more days until Christmas.  Are you guys ready?
David
I seem to be more sensitive to the cold weather in recent years, is that common for KD?
loshimo11
Done with shopping this year!!! Don't know how that happened...
Bruce
Yes! Yes! and Yes!
Stan
I suppose, if I have to, I guess, not really.
David
We are looking forward to our newlywed daughter and her hubby coming "home" for Christmas from their much colder Chicago home.
Stan
David, Yes, to sensitivity to the cold with KD.
Bruce
If I don't dress appropriately, my muscles stop working after being out too long.  My hands are the worst.  They never seem to be warm enough during the winter.  I use the "hot-hands" and it helps.
Stan
Hi, Gary
Bruce
Morning KC
Gary_KC
Connection reset by peer
Stan
My hands cramp up when the temp drops below 50
loshimo11
Bruce, I wanted to take this opportunity to thank you (again) for your continued efforts putting together your "Living with Kennedy's Disease" blog. I look for it 3 times a week and enjoy every bit of it.
Stan
Ditto, Bruce
Bruce
Your welcome.  Who would ever have thought it would grow to what it has today.  I struggle sometimes with finding interesting topics, but I try.
David
OK so one more thing to blame on KD; and my hands are the first to suffer from the cold also
Bruce
Gary, we were talking about the cold weather and how it affects us who have KD.
Gary_KC
Connection reset by peer
Bruce
Gary must be having problems this morning.
loshimo11
Bruce... it must be tough but you're very creative and always come up with very interesting topics. I certainly wouldn't be able to do it!!!
Stan
David, you can expect a loss of feeling in your feet and toes too.
Bruce
I use choppers down here when I go out.  No one in the south knows what they are, however.  The wool mitten inserts and leather exterior really helps ... especially with the hot hands inserted in them.
Bruce
Morning TedA
Stan
Hi, TedA
loshimo11
Can't handle extreme temperatures. Anything above 80 and below 55 affects me.
loshimo11
Hi TedA.
Bruce
Ted, are you getting any of this cold weather right now?
David
My wife for years has used a "rice sock" (a flannel bag filled with about a pound of rice) heated for one to two minutes it really helps especially at bedtime to warm the feet.
David
Hi Ted
loshimo11
So, do we have any personal "tricks" on how to handle this cold weather?
Bruce
David, I have heard of that.  I wear socks to bed and have an electric blanket.  I noticed my feet feel cold even if they are warm to the touch.
Stan
I try to stay inside as much as possible. :)
TedA
Good morning and happy holidays from Richmond VA
loshimo11
I have now had to resort to both an electric blanket and electric mattress pad. Get heat from both ends!!!
David
I find that using layers and a good warm hat help me.  I use a Tilley hat (Canadian made) check out Tilley.com
Bruce
Ted, did you happen to see my forum post or blog about John having problems with dutasteride.  He has been struggling with it for the last nine months or so.  He is ready to quit taking it.
Bruce
I can understand Luis.
Bruce
The hot hands are nice because they will last about eight hours.  I keep them in the pockets of my sweatshirt and they warm me all day.
Bruce
Gary, I see you are struggling this morning with the chat room.  Sorry!
Gary_KC
Good morning.This is Gary joining in from Kansas City.
David
Hi Gary
TedA
No I did not.   Is his Dutaseride for US or Canada?
Gary_KC
Bruce, Yes, I restarted my PC. It works now.
Bruce
Gary, we are talking about surviving in the cold.
Gary_KC
Hi David.
Bruce
Ted, he is in Maryland and was part of the clinical trial.
Bruce
Ted, have you had a PSA test since taking dutasteride?  I noticed in the warnings that it might give a false positive.
Bruce
I still find it hard to believe that I was raised in Minnesota.  We loved winter.  Today, I can't even imagine what I would be like there,.
TedA
Bruce, where is John getting the durasteride?      I do not think I have had a PSA test.     Should I request one?
loshimo11
We've been using one of those "heat one room only" electric heaters this year. Don't turn on the gas furnace to heat up empty rooms... Don't know what it's gonna do to my electric bill this month...
David
The other thing that I found helpful in the cold is a pair of mittin_gloves< the mitten part can be opened to allow use of the fingertips for things like using keys and still keep most of the hand covered>
Bruce
Ted, no, not necessarily.  I was just curious because I will have my annual test in early January.
Gary_KC
Bruce, what is PSA test?
Bruce
It is the blood test for early warning of prostrate problems.
Gary_KC
Thank you, Bruce.
Bruce
PSA = Prostrate Specific Antigen
loshimo11
David... There are now gloves that have sensitive fingertips which allow you to use "point and drag" devices like smartphones and ipads.
TedA
I think I am having a challenge with the duasteride that I am getting from Canada.     I am going back to US made and placed the order this morning.
Bruce
Prostate-specific antigen (PSA) is a protein produced by cells of the prostate gland. The PSA test measures the level of PSA in the blood. The doctor takes a blood sample, and the amount of PSA is measured in a laboratory. Because PSA is produced by the body and can be used to detect disease, it is sometimes called a biological marker or a tumor marker.
Bruce
I am getting mine from the local drug store so I cannot comment on that.
Bruce
Luis, I saw that also.  They looked pretty neat.
loshimo11
They're pretty difficult to use if you have to pick your nose...
David
Where do find those fingertip gloves?
Bruce
Luis, you always have great one liners
Bruce
I have been rewriting a book that I wrote back in '96.  It is a fantasy novel (about 100,000 words).  It has been fun, but sitting at the computer for hours at a time have caused some neck problems again.  I have to be more vigilant.
loshimo11
David... I got mine at a local sporting goods store but have seen them advertised via all the normal spam I get.
David
Thanks Luis
Bruce
I don't know if you noticed, but on our website we have a "What's New' section.  Whenever I add new content, I also up that page with a link to the content.  Recently, there has been a couple of interesting research reports.  One was especially good because Ed translated it so I could understand it.
Bruce
It was the same article I added to my blog.
Stan
Yes, I noticed. I also noticed you change the icon and a couple of other items. Looks good.
Bruce
Ed, is such a blessing.  He is my go-to guy whenever I read something that doesn't make sense in regards to research.
Gary_KC
I saw it. Thanks great work.
TedA
Bruce, I'll find your blog about John, read it and compare.
Bruce
Thanks, Stan.  I am trying to keep it fresh and make certain that when you return to the site you don't have to go through every page to see what is new.
loshimo11
Talking about neck problems... Has anyone experienced specific problem areas that are only temporary? I've had issues with my neck which come out of the blue for no reason. It prevents me from keeping my neck upright for a period of a week or so then it goes away overnight. Same with my left leg (not keeping it upright of course!). I've noticed that the neck issue happens around this time almost every year.
Bruce
Stan, since you are an expert in websites, any suggestions would be appreciated.
Bruce
I have been receiving quite a few emails from around the world with questions about KD.  There still seems to be dissinformation or no information, but it is getting better ... the word is getting out there.
Stan
I've had a lot of experience, but I would not call me an expert. Will let you know if I have any ideas like the KDA store addition.
Bruce
Thanks
Bruce
The KDA Forum is still pretty active.  There is a strong base group that keeps adding comments and some good new blood also.  I just wish I had more time to focus on all of these things.
Stan
Luis, I notice the right side of my neck gets a little weak, and a little pain now and then, but nothing like what you describe.
Bruce
Luis, I have been pretty fortunate with neck problems until this year.  It must be an age, posture, muscle atrophy and computer problem for me.
David
I have not had neck problems but do have trouble with my left shoulder and as part of some physical therapy a cold compress applied for 10 minutes helped.  I use that rice sock but this time from the freezer.  The cold is not fun but it does help with the pain.
Gary_KC
Luis, I have neck weak. I sometimes tired to hold my head.
Bruce
Luis, are you doing any neck exercises?
Stan
I read the Forums, Bruce, but I haven't seen anything that I can comment on. If anyone wants to discuss feeding tubes and trying to gain weight, I can contribute.
TedA
Bye for now.   Have a happy and safe  holiday  season.
Stan
Take care, TedA
Bruce
Stan, you might want to start a new topic because I know several KD'rs with feeding tubes.
loshimo11
Stan... my neck problems come out of a sudden and then go away as quickly. It's pretty noticeable specially when walking around. I found a couple of dollars a few years ago while outside so I shouldn't complain.
Bruce
We used to be happy to find some pennies or nickels.  Now it is dollars.
Stan
Sounds like a plan, Bruce.
loshimo11
Stan... I've been trying to gain some weight the last few years. Any help would be appreciated!!!
Bruce
Yes, Stan, I have been asked questions on feeding tubes a few times but cannot comment (lack of experience).
Stan
Send them to me, Bruce. I've had one for almost three years.
Bruce
Also, too often KD'rs are struggling to keep their weight down.  I am slightly on the light side these days (atrophy), but I can't imagine what it would be like if I had to carry around another 25-50 pounds.
Stan
I know the topic for today is Holiday Traditions. For us I guess that means keeping warm. Besides, this is a good conversation going.
Bruce
Did any of you watch any of the conference videos?
Bruce
Yes, I started with that, but often we digress to more important topics.
Gary_KC
Bruce, YES, I watched three of them.
Stan
Not yet. Busy getting the truck fixed after the wife used it for Deer hunting.
David
I have struggled with too much weight most of my life but over the last couple of years have dropped about 30 pounds and its made a world of difference.
Bruce
Stan, that sounds like a story.
Bruce
Good to hear David.  Jim in Idaho has struggled for a long time with weight issues and he has put together a great program that is working for him (exercise and diet).  I am really proud of him.
Stan
Bruce, just a typical Michigan story: Hitting a deer on the way to work, driving the back roads.
Bruce
Oh, my daughter and son-in-law hit one recently also.
loshimo11
Stan... I make this special once-a-year soup/stew that the family and friends slurp throughout Christmas day. It's grown in popularity over the years and I am now forced to make a very large pot. I get requests to make it throughout the year but always refuse because I try to make it a holiday tradition.
Gary_KC
Diet is good, but we also loose muscle without exercise???
Bruce
Gary, yes and we lose muscle without or without exercise.  Just perhaps a little more when we don't exercise.
Bruce
with or without
Bruce
Luis, tell us more about your stew.
David
Shedding a few pounds has allowed me more mobility and stability which in turn has allowed for more exercise.
Bruce
Personally, I love the Christmas tree.  My wife and I use to decorate it.  Now, she does the decorating.  It always gives the house a warm glow.
Bruce
David, I think that is great!
loshimo11
It's actually a family recipe that my grandmother used to make called "ajiaco". Don't tell anyone but it can now be found online if you google it under Cuban recipes.
Bruce
I thought next you were going to say that you order it online and continue to tell everyone you made it.
David
We love have a tree also, but the large one is too difficult for my wife to handle.  This year we purchased a smaller tree, it weighs less than 12 pounds and at 4 1/2 feet allowed me to help set it up and to decorate.
loshimo11
Bruce... have thought about that but once you get spoiled with certain ingredients, you can't fool them.
Stan
We've downsized our tree. I still put up lights. Yes, I climb a ladder. We usually get together for Chilli on Christmas Eve, then get together again on Christmas day for a big feast. In recent years, the tradition seems to have become - who is going to be sick or hurt this year.
Bruce
Personally, I miss my wife's jumbalia.  She hasn't made it in quite a while.  Since I no longer travel to the Cajun country I cannot get a fix.
Bruce
Stan, my family always had chili after the candlelight service on Christmas Eve.  We would all be in suits and my mom would give us dishtowels to wrap around out necks so we didn't spot our shirts or ties.
Bruce
I still believe that family traditions are important.
David
I like Cajun food also, but have found that I can no longer handle something that spicy.  It triggers swallowing problems.
Stan
Yep, you got it, Bruce. Still go to Mass
Bruce
Stan, I am impressed that you can still climb a ladder.  My last ladder expisode was the 'very last' one for me.
David
One of our traditions is singing in the Choir and the Christmas Eve service is always a highlight
loshimo11
Stan... Same here (except for the chile, but that sounds like a great idea). We had a large tree last year and I ended up tripping trying to get around it.... broke my big toe and ended up in the ER room all Christmas morning. On top of that, this happened while everyone was still in bed and I was accused of "hovering" over the gifts.... LIES!!!!!
Stan
David, ah yes, the swallowing issues have caused me to stop eating a lot of foods I like. The throat exercises help, but only to a point.
Bruce
My other funny winter story was when I was trying to feed the birds in PA.  We had a huge snowfall (Nor-easter) and there was about three foot of snow on the ground.  I fell down in the snow and could not get up.  I crawled (burrowed) through the snow to the garage.  Embarrassing.
Stan
Yes, I can still climb a ladder, carefully and slowly. I never am on one without someone to watch me though.
Bruce
Luis, I believe you.  In my entire life I have never shaken a gift.  Oops, there goes my nose growing again.
Stan
Bruce, I've done the crawling through the snow trick. Last Winter, in fact.
Bruce
I was so embarrassed that I did not tell my wife.  There is more to the story and that explains why I didn't tell her.
David
If I ever attempt to get on another ladder, the least of my worries would be falling.  My bride has made it very clear that certain things are just not allowed.  I guess that is a new tradition, accepting limitations. . .
Bruce
Christmas for my wife's side is a special event each year.  We still get between 20-24 there for the day.  I love it.
Bruce
David, your wife sounds like mine.  She has seen me over-extend my capabilities too often and ended up hurt.  They are the ones that suffer when we do not use our brains.
Stan
Our family get-together has dwindled to about 12 over the years for Christmas. Still get over 50 for the Summer one though.
David
One of our Yelton-family traditions is to join with my brother and sister's families and recently invite all of our surviving aunts and uncles to join us.  We typically meet mid-day on New Years day.  The stories go on for hours.
Bruce
I still love to see the faces of our nieces and grand nieces.  The nephews are all adults now.  They just light up in expecation.
Bruce
Family stories are a treasure.  With as large a family as I had, the stories went on for hours also.  I believe we tell most of the same stories each year and laugh just as hard.
Bruce
AJIACO - I plan on looking that up after we finish today Luis.
Stan
We are a little different. When my nephews run out of embellished true stories, they make some up. Lots of laughs.
loshimo11
Ahhhh... Holiday family gatherings...... Everlasting memories.... Most of them good, some bad and some funny.
Bruce
Yes, I love the traditions and hope that they never end within our family.
loshimo11
Bruce... my personal suggestion is to use extra garlic (if you can handle it). But don't tell anyone...
Bruce
Luis, I love garlic so that shouldn't be a problem except for people we might meet ...
loshimo11
Bring some extra masks...
Stan
Yep, Chestnuts pasting on an open fire, burning the carpet and the floor. Spreading across to the drapes and the tree...
Stan
roasting
Bruce
Well, before you all sign off, I want to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas and a safe, healthy and happy 2012.
Gary_KC
I 've got to go. Stay warm and happy holidy! Bye
Bruce
Stay upright!
David
Have a Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy and verticle New Year.
Bruce
It is past time for my dogs second walk of the day.  Take care guys and thanks for joining me today.
loshimo11
Gotta go soon... Just wanted to wish everyone in the chat the happiest holidays. Please make sure to be extra careful and stay upright. Same wishes to all those unknown individuals that have popped out of nowhere to help me when help was needed!!!
Stan
Thanks, Bruce. Hope everyone has a safe, happy and healthy Holiday too. Chat with you next year.
David
Until next time
Stan
Bye, David